TR - Late in 2006 I decided to help the Tcl community to relaunch/improve/overhaul (or whatever you call it) the http://www.tcl.tk site. I was tired of all this marketing talk and nothing being done about it. So here I am, starting work slowly but continuously.
Original post
My original announcement for this task was posted in this thread about "Finding a niche for Tcl":
http://groups.google.de/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/98ec976d58b75c86/e7eb63b0b9993e81
The plan
On the site http://tcl.typoscriptics.de/portal you will always find the current status of the new Tcl portal. My plan is to ...
Current status
I am in phase 1 now collecting and reorganizing content from www.tcl.tk. Any time I see something interesting, I add a placeholder to the new site so I can remember what to add in phase 3.
(pages in parentheses are not yet transferred)
To do
Can you help?
Yes you can. Provide content, stories, news, ...! I have already received some content (a tutorial) from Arjen Markus and an offer from the makers of the Tcl-URL! to help me trasnferring the weekly news to the site.
Comments
EKB Your new design is easier to navigate thatn www.tcl.tk. I look forward to seeing more. (Although I'm not crazy about the layout. It's too "Wordpress"-like for me, and I'm glad that at step 2 in your plan you're looking at designs. Maybe take a look at CSS Zen Garden for inspiration? [L2 ])
TR I know Zen Garden and many of these layouts are really beautiful. As the plan is, the focus is on content alone now. The current layout is a placeholder only, so people can see the content being added. When all content is there, I will switch focus to the layout and I think there will be lots to discuss then.
EKB Sounds like a good plan!
On another note, I think you could quickly fill in your Tcl/Tk placeholders for "hello, world":
puts "Hello, World!"
and
pack [label .l -text "Hello, World!"]
TR True. I was planning something like this. It needs a short introductory text, though. Maybe I'll take some from the wiki ... EKB Yes, in fact, there's a whole The Hello World program as implemented in Tcl/Tk page.
EKB One more comment. If you used the same type size on all the pages (home page & others), then the user could set the type size that's comfortable for them. My 2 1/2 cents.
TR This may be due to my ignorance on layout right now. I will look into this. Thanks for your comments! EKB No problem! Actually, truth be told, the last one was from my spouse, who is a graphic designer. She gave me permission to pretend it was my idea :-D
tjk You might add a link to the tkchat page to the the related links for Core Team. TR Done! Thanks for the hint.
chrisjl - Forgive me if this is already part of the plan, but I'd hate to see you complete this daunting task without me making this point. I hope part of the intended process is to change the URLs to reflect the page content. e.g. Documentation -> Tutorials is currently accessed as the highly forgettable page3/page10/page10.html - I'd much rather be able to tell people to visit www.tcl.tk/docs/tutorials (note the absence of an actual file name in that URL). TR I can assure you, this is part of the plan. The current page names are generated by the web software I am using and as long as I collect content and organize it, I will leave it like that. When all content is there, the names will be changed to something more reasonable :-)
LV 2007 Oct 25 The first thing I noticed was the typo in the <head> of the first page - it says Tck instead of Tcl ... TR: Whoops, how could that one stay for so long without being noticed ... corrected now, thanks!
LV Home page needs updated - the tcl/tk conference is over now. Also, ActiveTcl 8.4.16.0 is available now. Probably a new version of the 8.5 beta is available as well. (TR - Right. This was when I first took the content. I will update this type of content when I see it during my edits. It's about getting content now, keeping it updated comes next.) Also, what is the difference between transferred and grabbed? (TR - Well, none. Originally, 'grabbed' were pages taken over without modifications, and 'transferred' were pages with modifications. But this distinction is no longer true.) And the difference between entries in (parens) and those not? (TR - this is explained in the text above the long pages list: pages in parens are those not transferred/grabbed yet.)
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