proc ceil x {expr {ceil($x)}}so you don't have to require TclX...LV Certainly. However, the point was to document what the TclX ceil command does...DKF: Also available in Tcl 8.5 as tcl::mathfunc::ceil. proc ceil x {expr {ceil($x)}}so you don't have to require TclX...LV Certainly. However, the point was to document what the TclX ceil command does...DKF: Also available in Tcl 8.5 as tcl::mathfunc::ceil.