Biography editMy name is Larry W. Virden (aka LV here on the Wiki and lvirden many places around the internet and sometimes seen as lwv on wikit page modifications, etc.).I am a grandpa! My first grandchild was born to my daughter and son-in-law Nov. 15, 2010. I am so proud of her!
- My home web site (comatose) is http://www.purl.org/net/lvirden/ .
- My Tcl web site (comatose) is http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-faq/ .
- My preferred email address is the lvirden account I have at gmail.com.
- My social bookmarks can be found at http://delicious.com/lvirden .
- Tcl and the Tk Toolkit
- Tcl/Tk in a Nutshell
- Web Tcl Complete
- Tcl/Tk Programmer's Reference
- Programming Expect
- CGI Developer's Resource
- Effective Tcl/Tk Programming
- Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk (first edition)
- Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk (second edition)
- Tcl and the Tk Toolkit
- Effective Tcl/Tk Programming
- Interactive Web Applications With Tcl/Tk
- Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk (fourth edition)
Things to think about:
Anyone who has used Tcl and feels it has contributed positively to them should take a little time and contribute back. Contributions can range from making code that you have written available, to submitting Tcl/Tk bug reports, patches to suggesting improvements to http://tcl.sf.net/ , to updating Wiki pages here, etc.
Many times people complain about how Tcl works. It usually sounds like they are expecting Tcl to act in a manner similar to some other language. They generally sound frustrated, sometimes expressing threats to move off to some other language.Unfortunately, I am uncertain which other language to recommend to them. Some want a scripting language which cares less about white space than Tcl. I suppose I could recommend Perl. Sometimes they seek languages which enforce variable naming or provide tighter scoping. I could probably recommend Python. Unfortunately that requires a particular physical code layout style, but might be able to do the rest of what they want. Or maybe Ruby would better suit them.I do wish them all good luck finding a scripting language that is fast, flexible, enforcing the level of strictness desired, but permitting one to code in in their own personal style. It's a holy grail that programmers sometimes spend significant portions of their lives seeking. Many will tell you that this language, or that one, has satisfied them. In my own personal quest, I have yet to find the ultimate solution.
I am LV (or lvirden) when I can get on the Tcl'ers Chat Tcl Chatroom.The TkChat application in tclapps module of tcllib on SourceForge is available for users to join in the fun of the chat room.Now that the chatroom has moved to IRC , I am no longer able to access it during the work day. Maybe some day there will be web page access again.I wouldn't even begin to guess how many of the 20000+ pages on this wiki I have either started or contributed a lot to - it would not be modest to mention, I guess... (and if my family ever saw, I would be in big trouble for spending so much time here...)
Some favorite quotes
- In a recent DevSource article about dynamic (scripting) languages (with contributions by our own CL and JH), the PHP author (another Larry) had a description that read something like:
- Everything takes longer than it does.
- "Never look back unless you are planning to go that way."
- Henry David Thoreau
- "If A is success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z.
Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein
- In a February 1998 interview conducted by Dr. Dobbs Journal with
- Do you have any final comments, or typs for aspiring programmers? Or aspiring Perl programmers?
- Assume that your first idea is wrong, and try to think through the various options. I think that the biggest mistake people make is latching onto the first idea that comes to them and trying to do that. It really comes to a thing that my folks taught me about money. Don't buy something unless you've wanted it three times. Similarly, don't throw in a feature when you first think of it. Think if there's a way to generalize it, think if it should be generalized. Sometimes you can generalize things too much. I think like the things in Scheme were generalized too much. There is a level of abstraction beyond which people don't want to go. Take a good look at what you want to do, and try to come up with the long-term lazy way, not the short-term lazy way.
LV Just an update - over the past few years, my life has taken several unforseen twists which I am not going to go into here. The results of these twists, however, have taken up the personal time I used to spend wikignoming, cataloging software for the FAQ, etc. As I grow older, it appears to me that instead of having more time for personal interesting and hobbies, I am finding that my time is being filled with doctor visits, etc.Anyways, I apologize for the decline in contributions. The lack of attention has more to do with issues that exert a higher priority for attention than it does a lack of interest in Tcl...
Ideas for Tcl/Tk
Here's a couple of images for Larry to use when marking broken links in the wiki - stevel Wikignomes - you may feel free to use these as well! Wrote a bot ("OrphanBot"), will now make a new one for local DB inspection, but got told you might find it interesting anyway: Orphans - [gg]
Merry Christmas to all! And Happy Holidays as well!
Tcl data files
- Fifth Annual Tcl/Tk Workshop
- Seventh Annual Tcl/Tk Conference
- Eighth Annual Tcl/Tk Conference
- Ninth Annual Tcl/Tk Conference
dkf - 2010-11-16 11:43:35Congratulations!